he's looking to the debates and he's looking to some intensive campaigning with paul ryan to tray to make a difference. >> john, i heard a report on npr this morning talking about gary johnson, the former governor of new mexico, who's going to be running -- i think he's on the ballot in something like 47 states. you don't hear much about his campaign. you don't expect that it would make a difference too many places, but in some polls he's picked up as much as 6% of the electorate. do either the democrats or the republicans really give this much thought? >> i think republicans are a little more concerned. remember, gary johnson was an elected republican governor, and when you look at that strong libertarian chunk of the electorate, that's more of a part of the republican coalition. on the bright side for romney, gary johnson's got as minimal attention as a third party candidate can get, not anywhere in the league of ross perot some cycles ago, not as much as ralph nader i don't think either in 2000. but he is getting some. there's concern that in a close state, he could take a point o